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CVS Fires Managers Who Called Police On Black Woman Over Coupon

The manager called the police twice on a woman after she attempted to use a coupon for a health issue.

Camilla Hudson (upper right) recorded her interaction with CVS manager Morry Matson as he called the police on her for attempting to use a coupon.
Camilla Hudson / Facebook
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EDGEWATER — The white CVS manager who called the police on a black woman trying to use a coupon at an Edgewater store Friday night has been fired by the company, a CVS Health spokesman told Block Club Chicago Monday morning.

“We have completed our investigation, and as a result the two colleagues who were involved are no longer employed by CVS Health,” Michael DeAngelis said in a statement.

Another manager at the store involved in the incident was also let go.

One of the managers involved, Morry Matson, earlier claimed to be running for alderman of the 48th Ward on Chicago’s Far North Side, however just days after Block Club Chicago first reported on the incident, his campaign website had been taken down. 

A screen capture of Matson’s campaign site, which had been taken down as of Monday. 

He was also previously behind an effort to bring back the Log Cabin Republicans — a group of LGBTQ Republicans — in the state. On Saturday, he was listed as the Illinois chapter head, though by Monday his name had been removed from the organization’s site and a statement from the group said Matson’s involvement had been “terminated.”

“Log Cabin Republicans Chapter Leaders have a duty to conduct themselves in a manner becoming of an organization advocating equality and inclusion of all Americans — whether or not they are acting in an official capacity on behalf of LCR or otherwise,” National President Gregory T. Angelo told Block Club Chicago. “As news articles highlighting Mr. Matson’s actions from this past weekend show, not doing so can have detrimental consequences not only for individual Chapters, but for the national organization as a whole. As such, the provisional charter afforded to LCR Illinois under its newly reconstituted leadership has been terminated.”

Matson had also claimed to be a delegate for President Donald Trump during his 2016 campaign, but an official list of Illinois Trump delegates does not include his name.

Camilla Hudson, the customer whose Facebook post about the interaction has now gone viral, said she was on her way home Friday night when she decided to stop at the 6150 N. Broadway store to stretch her legs, buy a drink and use her coupon, which was for a free item related to a health issue.

A native Chicagoan, Hudson said she had been to the 24-hour CVS location many times. She posted the incident after seeing many videos of white people calling the police on black people for no legitimate reason online in recent months.

“I think it’s resonating because we see and we hear these things, and even though … for me, as a black woman, I know this is real — you’re never really expecting it,” Hudson told Block Club Chicago. “In Charlottesville, that’s where you expect these things to happen. Not when you turn randomly into the CVS at 11:30 p.m.”

Hudson said she tried to use the self-checkout, but it lacked a mechanism for taking coupons.

The store’s manager, Matson, offered to assist her on a register, but the situation escalated when he called for another manager, she said. That manager, whose name was not known, told Hudson they couldn’t accept the voucher because he’d never seen one like it before and accused her of possibly handwriting it, she said. A picture of the coupon is also included in the post.

Hudson was horrified by the treatment she received and the assumption she had forged a coupon.

The coupon Hudson attempted to use at the Edgewater CVS. Courtesy of Camilla Hudson.

“You’re calling me a liar, you’re calling me a thief, you’re calling me a forger,” she said. “It’s not that they didn’t take the coupon or refused to take the coupon, it’s how he did it. He was nasty, he was unprofessional, he was dismissive, he was accusatory — his entire tone and demeanor was offensive and problematic.”

From there, Hudson said she stood her ground and insisted to know what was wrong with her coupon. She asked the managers to call CVS corporate offices to help resolve the issue. She followed one of the managers throughout the store as he walked away from her, and eventually pulled out her phone to document the interaction, she said. When he noticed she was filming, the manager stopped responding to Hudson and walked to the back of the store where customers are not permitted, she said.

Shortly thereafter, Hudson said Matson appeared and told her that she “better leave because I called the police.”

“I was not yelling, I did not raise my voice, I did not use profanity, I did not call anyone outside of their name — other than not accepting, basically, ‘Screw you,’ that was my offense, if you will,” she said.

Matson and Hudson returned to the front of the store, where Matson told her he had called the police. He tried calling 911 again, which Hudson captured on video:

According to Chicago Police, officers responded to a call for an “assault in progress” at 11:55 p.m. Friday at the 6150 N. Broadway store. No police report was made.

A CVS corporate spokesman said the company apologized to Hudson the next day.

“We sincerely apologize to Ms. Hudson for her experience in one of our stores,” CVS said in a statement issued to Block Club Chicago. “Our Region Director in Chicago contacted Ms. Hudson as soon as we were made aware of this incident. CVS has begun an investigation and we will take any corrective action that is warranted to prevent it from happening again.

“CVS Pharmacy does not tolerate any practices that discriminate against any customer and we are committed to maintaining a welcoming and diverse environment in our stores,” the statement continued. “We have firm non-discrimination policies in place to help ensure that all customers are treated with respect and dignity. Profiling or any other type of discriminatory behavior is strictly prohibited.”

In her post, Hudson said she had “zero” concerns once police were called, and told Block Club Chicago she knew she’d done nothing wrong. According to Hudson, three tactical officers responded.

“They were not awful,” she said of the police. “I explained to them what had happened and how it had happened, and they said, ‘When we get these calls we do have to respond … [but] you’re going to have to leave,’ and I said, ‘Why do I have to leave? I’m a customer here.’”

Hudson said an officer explained that the managers were acting as an “agent” of CVS and therefore had the authority to tell people to leave, otherwise they could be arrested for criminal trespassing.

While she was willing to comply with their directions, Hudson said she didn’t feel she was treated equally compared to the CVS employees — particularly because she’d not broken any laws. She collected the officers’ information.

“My point is: While they did not come in berating me, I’m a citizen of this city as well, and it’s my understanding it’s the job of the police department to serve and protect everyone,” Hudson said. “I did not feel served, I did not feel protected, and I did not feel they were there in any capacity to represent my interests, and my well-being.”

“That’s a problem for me,” she added. “As a woman, as a black woman, as a native Chicagoan, I’m just tired of it. I’m tired of it.”

Hudson and police both left the store. She began driving home but soon had to pull over to collect herself, she said. After a moment, she decided to turn around and headed back to the store’s parking lot, where she sat and wrote out her Facebook post “while it was still fresh.”

By Saturday, she received the phone call from CVS’ corporate office, who apologized and said it would investigate the matter by conducting interviews with the employees and reviewing store video footage.

Matson is a 48th Ward resident and has himself been in hot water over fraudulent claims in the past.

In 2016, a vote on extending the lakefront path from Edgewater to Rogers Park was yanked from the November ballot after city officials ruled that five pages of signatures on the petitions submitted by Matson calling for the vote were forged. In 2014, Matson also ran into problems getting a question on the ballot, and he faced opposition in 2013, too.

Matson was in hot water after forging signatures on a ballot measure to extend the lakefront path from Edgewater to Rogers Park in 2018. [Benjamin Woodard for DNAinfo / Facebook]

Hudson said her intention in posting about her experience was never to have Matson “stalked,” but she did feel it was important to expose the behavior of he and the other manager — especially with the prevalence of other videos showing white people calling the police on people of color for perceived suspiciousness or minor infractions.

“I want people to be known, and when people say and do things that are problematic, I want there to be awareness — but I’m not trying to turn this into stalking,” she said. “All I did was post my experience and post the video, and here we are.”

Her post has since garnered thousands of shares, comments and reactions on social media, and Hudson said she’s received an “outpouring of support” from friends, family and the public.

If presented with the opportunity to speak to either CVS manager again, Hudson said she has “nothing to say … because they’ve shown me who they really are.”

To CVS and other corporations, she would encourage companies to do better vetting when it comes to its employees, otherwise, she’s prepared to take her business elsewhere.

Matson did not return calls for comment.

“To CVS and other corporations … is [Matson] the face of CVS? Is this who CVS, as a business, wants to represent them? Because if so, I don’t want to be your customer,” she said. “I don’t want to spend my money with you, I don’t want to enter your stores, I am not your target market if this is who you put on the front line to greet me and to interact with me.”

“At 53 years old, I’m tired of the dancing around; I’m tired of pretending it’s one thing when it’s really another,” Hudson concluded. “Eventually, people have to choose: Which side of the equation are you on?”